Best Water Fed Pole: 45 Audited, 1 Risky Connection

Last Updated on October 6, 2026 by Umar Farooq

The best water fed pole is one you buy understanding that it is a tap-pressure tool — and across 45 listings above the serious end of this category, not one publishes an inlet pressure, a maximum pressure or a flow rate, while three of them mention a pressure washer and two invite you to plumb part of the kit into one.

Almost everybody who reads this page already owns a machine. That is the problem and it is also why this page exists. You have a second-floor window, or an array on the garage roof, and you have worked out that the thing standing between you and it is a ladder you would rather not move eleven times. So you search for reach, and up come twenty-four to forty feet of brush on a stick, soap dispensers, squeegees, cobweb dusters, and a photograph of a man on a lawn holding something that looks like a fishing rod.

What none of those listings tells you is that the tool is on the other side of a line from the machine in your garage. It runs on what your outside tap can push: call it forty to eighty PSI, with a published ceiling that one manufacturer puts in a box headed DANGER. Your machine starts at five hundred. The two end in the same three-quarter-inch hose thread, which is exactly why this needs saying out loud.

So I read the category — twenty search phrasings, forty-five distinct water-fed poles at the serious end of the lane, from the marketplace’s own catalogue rather than from anybody’s top-ten list. Then I read the only operating manual the lane publishes. Here is what the shelf will commit to, what it will not, and the one connection to never make.

Forty to Eighty PSI, Printed on Nothing

Start with the number nobody prints, because it decides everything else.

Unger publishes an installation and operating manual for its nLite HydroPower pure-water system, which is the trade-standard way a water-fed pole gets fed. The specification table has a row headed Power. The value in it is Tap Pressure. The row underneath is headed Pump, and the value in that one is NA. There is no motor anywhere in the tool.

The manual then gives the working band and the ceiling in the same document (Unger, nLite HydroPower installation and operating instructions):

No power is required other than drinking water line pressure, which typically ranges from 40 to 60 psi. This enables the system to produce pure water at up to 1.5 gallons per minute.

And on the page before the introduction, under a heading set in capitals as DANGER, beside the words *”Contents under pressure. Can cause severe injury or death from tank rupture”*:

Do not exceed pressure of 115 psi (8Bar).

The same company’s consumer manual for its smaller system sets the same instruction forty-five pounds lower — “DO NOT EXCEED PRESSURE OF 90 PSI (6.2 BAR)” and, two lines down, “FOR USE ONLY WITH TAP WATER” (Unger, Professional Rinse ‘n Go Plus user manual). Two documents, one maker, two ceilings, and the lower one belongs to the unit a homeowner is more likely to own. Where a manufacturer publishes two figures I would work to the lower, and in this case both are a long way under what a pressure washer does at idle.

Now the census. Of forty-five listings, the number that publish an inlet pressure, a maximum pressure, a bar figure or a flow rate in gallons or litres per minute is zero. Not one. The only time the word “bar” appears anywhere in forty-five sets of feature bullets, it is a Tucker brush head describing its *rinse bar*.

Three of forty-five mention a pressure washer, and two of those three mention it in the worst possible place. Both EquipMaxx filter kits carry this sentence: *”The inline filter fits any standard 3/4″ hose thread and pressure washer.”* The third is Guttermaster, inviting you to *”Explore the full Guttermaster system of telescoping poles, pressure washer wands, and accessories”* — one brand, one catalogue, two tools whose operating pressures differ by a factor of fifty, and the same fitting on both.

So here is the rule, and it is the whole reason I would rather you read this page than a top-ten list. The water-fed pole is fed from the tap. Never from the machine’s outlet, never through its pump, never through the unloader, and not through the machine at all even in bypass. A positive-displacement pump does not have a setting that gets you down to garden-tap pressure — the orifice sets the pressure and the pump sets the flow — which is the same arithmetic that rules a machine out of solar panel cleaning entirely. If you want a quick sense of how far apart the two worlds are, this site has already quoted the pressure washer industry’s own test standard, which specifies the *inlet* water a machine is tested on at forty to eighty PSI; that figure sits in the piece on cleaning window screens. Your machine’s feed and this pole’s supply are the same water. Its outlet and this pole are not on speaking terms.

One more thing from that manual, because it is the only safety documentation in the lane and it names the hazard the listings do not. Unger’s general hazard list for pole work opens by telling you to “Read and follow ANSI Standard IWCA 1-14.1 (Window Cleaning Safety)” — a standard I have not read, because it is paywalled, and I am citing only that it exists and that a manufacturer points at it. The list then includes “Electrocution from poles coming into contact with overhead power source” and “Injury to others from falling poles caused by incorrect handling or failure of pole.” On the electrical half, the position is settled elsewhere on this site and I am not going to re-derive it: the federal rule on working near overhead lines treats any object without a published insulating rating as a conductive object, and nothing in this category publishes one. A thirty-foot aluminium tube with a continuous column of water inside it is that object. The distance is the protection.

The Trade Multiplies the Height by 1.2 and the Shelf Adds Six Feet

The number in the title is the only one most of these listings give you, and the industry cannot agree which direction to apply it in.

A worker cleaning the windows of a building from a blue crane on a clear day, the access method a pole is bought to replace

Fourteen of forty-five publish a pole length — either a collapsed-to-extended pair like “5–24 ft” or an explicit “extends from 7 feet to 24”. The other thirty-one give you a single headline figure and leave you to work out what it describes.

Six of the forty-five publish a reach claim *and* a pole length as two separate numbers, and the gap between them is six feet on five of the six. Novastry states it as a sentence rather than leaving you to subtract: *”a 20FT telescopic water fed pole with up to 26FT reach height.”* Buyplus does it in the title — thirty feet of reach, a five-to-twenty-four-foot pole. That is the convention a professional supplier uses too; J. Racenstein’s own guidance, which I read on its advice pages rather than taking from a search summary, puts it at “a 50-foot pole gives most operators a practical working height of 53 to 55 feet, accounting for the operator’s own height and the safe working angle against the building.” Pole plus a few feet of person.

Then three EquipMaxx listings use the word the other way round entirely. “EQUIPMAXX 24 Feet Reach” is a pole that “extends from 7 Feet to 24.” “30 Feet Reach” is a pole that extends from seven to thirty. On those three, reach *is* the pole length, with nothing added for the person holding it.

And the same brand’s own published advice says to run the correction in the opposite direction. EquipMaxx’s sizing guidance, which I read in full, states: *”A reliable rule is to multiply the height of the surface by 1.2. For example: 20 ft window → ~24 ft pole, 30 ft window → ~36 ft pole.”* Its reasoning is the honest part: *”You’ll rarely be cleaning straight up. Your working angle reduces effective reach, and slight flex in the pole under pressure can also impact performance.”* And, flatly, *”A ’40 foot reach’ does not mean the pole itself is 40 feet long.”*

Hold those next to each other. One supplier adds three to five feet to the pole. Another derates the pole by twenty per cent. On a two-storey house with a top pane around twenty feet up, the first convention says a sixteen-footer will do and the second says buy twenty-four. That is eight feet of disagreement inside one trade, and one brand is on both sides of it depending on whether you are reading its guidance or its listing.

My own reading is that the derate is the one to trust, because it is the only one that accounts for the angle, and because nobody cleans a window with a pole held vertically — you stand back far enough to see what you are doing, and the pole becomes the hypotenuse. Multiply the height of the highest glass by 1.2 and buy that, rounded up to the next size. The separate question of what happens to the far end of a long pole once there is load on it belongs to the telescoping pressure washer wand breakdown, which does the turning-load arithmetic properly and is the reason the last two sections of any long pole are not really aimed.

Every Published Weight Here Came Off a Shipping Label

Mass is the specification a marketplace fills in from freight data rather than from marketing copy, which usually makes it the most honest number on a listing. In this category it is the opposite, and the reason is instructive.

Nineteen of forty-five carry a weight through the marketplace. Thirteen print one in the copy. Exactly one listing in forty-five publishes a weight for the pole as distinct from the weight of the box it arrives in — the Aquaspray Venom, whose bullet reads “The 8.4 lb pole balances long reach with the control needed for demanding jobs.”

Everything else is a parcel, and a parcel here contains a pole, two or three brush heads, a squeegee, a gooseneck adapter and in several cases sixty-five feet of hose. So the figure moves with the kit and not with the tool, and within one brand’s own range it stops behaving like a weight at all. VEVOR lists eight of these poles. Set the marketplace figure against the stated length:

Stated lengthWeight carried by the listing
20 ft7.54 lb
24 ft8.38 lb
26 ft10.58 lb
30 ft8.88 lb
33 ft11.35 lb
33 ft12.50 lb
36 ft10.49 lb
39 ft12.57 lb

Two poles of the same stated length, from the same brand, 1.15 lb apart. A thirty-six-footer published lighter than the twenty-six. The thirty lighter than the twenty-six as well. None of that is a lie — the kits genuinely differ — but it does mean you cannot read any of those eight numbers as the mass of a pole, and the listings do not tell you which parts are in the parcel.

EquipMaxx manages to do it inside a single sentence. One of its twenty-four-footers describes itself as “weighing only 5.12 lbs. 5.68 lbs (91 oz)” — two weights, in that order, in one bullet, with the marketplace recording 4.0 lb for the same item. Three figures for one pole, and 91 ounces is 5.69 lb, so the bracketed conversion belongs to the second number and not the first. A sister listing with the identical copy carries 6.0 lb at the marketplace. I would work to 5.68 lb, because it is the figure the conversion checks out against, and I would note that the shelf’s lightest-looking pole got there partly by rounding.

The figure that none of the forty-five publishes is the one your arms actually meet: the mass at full extension with water in the line. Nobody states it, nobody states the bore of the internal tube you would need to work it out, and I am not going to invent either. What you can do is read the length figures as the better proxy, because they do rise honestly with size — and treat any pole whose listing gives neither a weight nor a section count as a pole whose maker has told you nothing about what you will be holding.

On that last point, the count is stark. One listing of forty-five publishes a section count — IGADPole’s “6-Stage Telescoping Pole 5-24ft”. Thirty-three name a material, ten of those carbon fibre, and twenty-two mention a clamp or a lock. But only three go further than the word: Buyplus counts them (“four flap locks”), TONYINGO names a mechanism (“Dual Action Flip-lock & Screw Fixing Design”), and Aquaspray names a design intent (“Anti-Spin Clamps… helps keep sections aligned to reduce twisting”). Every clamp is a wear point, and the number of clamps follows the number of sections, which forty-four listings decline to tell you.

Why a Pole Full of Tap Water Leaves the Spots You Came to Remove

Here is the part that catches people out, and it is the reason a water-fed pole is not simply a long hose.

A man drawing a squeegee down a large pane of glass, the step that stops tap water drying into a mineral film

The whole point of these systems is that nothing has to be dried. Unger’s manual puts the mechanism in one sentence: pure water *”attracts dirt and impurities from the surface being cleaned, holding it in solution,”* and *”Pure water left on the surface will dry to a clean and spot-free appearance.”* It then gives the figure that matters to anybody on mains water — “The average TDS of drinking water is 180 ppm.” Deionised water carries no minerals, so it dries leaving nothing, which is the reason the professional pole systems run it, as the solar panel cleaning guidance sets out.

Run ordinary tap water through the same pole and you have built a very efficient delivery system for a mineral film. Every drop you leave on the glass dries into a ring of carbonate, in the exact outline it stopped in, twenty feet up where you cannot wipe it. That is the deposit the piece on hard water stains on windows spends an afternoon dissolving with acid — and acid, applied at twenty feet through a brush, is not a job that exists.

So on tap water there are only two honest options: squeegee the glass dry before it dries itself, or treat the water. Which brings us to what the shelf actually sells.

Sixteen of forty-five include a squeegee. One — IGADPole — prints the absence as an exclamation: *”This kit does not include a squeegee!”* Which is, oddly, the most useful sentence in that listing, because the other twenty-eight simply stay quiet.

On the water side, fifteen of forty-five mention deionised or pure water, and almost every one of those is the same boilerplate clause: *compatible with standard garden hoses or pure water systems.* That is not a feature. It is the listing telling you the thing that makes the tool work is a separate purchase, in the voice of a thing that comes with it. One listing in forty-five says so plainly — the Aquaspray Venom: *”This listing includes the pole kit and accessories only; a filtration, DI, or RO/DI system is not included, so buyers can pair it with the water setup that fits their workflow.”* Credit where it is due.

Three listings include a filter of some kind, and two of those three are the pair I have the most trouble with, and I come back to them below. How long a resin bed lasts and what TDS it leaves behind is a separate purchase and a separate argument, and I am not going to half-answer it here. What belongs on this page is the buying consequence: if your water is hard and the kit has no squeegee, you have not bought a window cleaning tool. You have bought a rinse tool and a future acid job.

Work Out the Height First, the Water Second, the Pole Last

Three decisions, in this order, and the order is the point — because the thing people decide first is the only one of the three that the listings will talk about.

One: measure the top pane and multiply by 1.2. Stand on the lawn and work out how high the highest glass you care about actually is. A single-storey eave is usually ten to twelve feet; a two-storey top pane is around eighteen to twenty-two. Multiply, round up to the next size the brand sells, and stop. Buying the thirty-nine-footer for a two-storey house buys you sections you will never extend, and every section is a clamp.

Two: decide what happens to the water. Soft water, or a squeegee in the box, and you are fine. Hard water and no squeegee, and the pole will make work rather than finish it. This decision is independent of the pole and most people make it last, or never.

Three: then pick the pole, on what it will commit to. In the order the figures actually matter here: a stated pole length rather than a bare reach claim; a weight you can check against the marketplace’s own figure; a named clamp mechanism rather than the word “clamp”; a squeegee, if your water needs one. And nothing in this category publishes a pressure rating, so there is no point looking — just keep it on the tap.

What this page is not going to do is tell you a pole replaces the rest of the toolkit. It does not touch a gutter trough, it is the wrong tool for scrubbing anything that is genuinely attached, and above the first storey a brush on a pole is a wiper rather than a scrubber — the house siding cleaning brush breakdown does the force-against-reach arithmetic on that and reaches a conclusion worth reading before you buy a wide brush head.

Best Water Fed Pole, Chosen House by House

Six poles, six different houses. Each one is wrong for somebody and I have said who.

Buyplus 30-foot reach, five-to-twenty-four-foot pole. The best-documented listing at the volume end of this category, and it earns that by counting things. A twenty-inch brush with non-shedding high-density nylon bristles, four high-flow nozzles, a 180-degree angle adapter, a universal three-quarter-inch threaded tip, four flap locks, two foam handgrips, a squeegee with a washable microfiber cloth, a cobweb duster, and both numbers — the reach and the pole — in the title rather than one of them. For a two-storey house on hard water this is the one I would start from, because the squeegee is in the box. The limitation is real: it publishes no weight at all, in the copy or at the marketplace, so the one figure you cannot get is the one you will feel. And it exists as three listings whose feature bullets are byte-for-byte identical, differing only by a colour word in the title, two of which say the same colour. Check which listing you are on before you click.

VEVOR 26-foot Solar Panel Cleaning Kit. This is the pick for a two-storey house, and the reason is a line VEVOR prints on its longer poles and not on this one. Its 33, 36 and 39-foot listings all carry the sentence *”Due to the extended pole length, two-person operation is recommended for better control and stability.”* Its 20, 24, 26 and 30-footers do not. That is a manufacturer drawing a one-person ceiling inside its own range, and this is the longest pole with a squeegee that sits under it. Two water jets, a soap dispenser, a 180-degree rotating head, aluminium alloy, named buckle locks and sixty-five feet of hose. Three limitations. The 10.58 lb figure is a parcel weight and heavier than the brand’s own 30 and 36-footers, so do not read it as a pole mass. There is no pole length published, only the headline 26. And Sanven Technology, the company behind the VEVOR badge, has eight notices in the CPSC recall database — baby loungers, baby gates, baby swings, ice crushers, steamers, handrails and cable railing kits. Not one of them is a cleaning tool and none touches this product family, so the link stays; I would rather you heard that from me than found it later.

IGADPole 24-foot washing kit with the ten-inch squeegee. IGAD sells two twenty-four-footers and the difference between them is the thing this page says matters most. This one includes a ten-inch squeegee, a water-fed brush with a soap dispenser and a cobweb duster. Its sibling publishes the better specification — it is the only listing in all forty-five to state a section count, “6-Stage Telescoping Pole 5-24ft” — and then prints *”This kit does not include a squeegee!”* So the better-specified IGAD is the one I would not buy, and the one to buy is the one that leaves its sections uncounted. That is the limitation, plainly: you are choosing the squeegee over the disclosure, because on hard water the squeegee is the job.

Novastry 20-foot pole, 26-foot reach. Worth owning for one reason: it is the only listing in the census that explains its own arithmetic in a sentence rather than printing two numbers and hoping. *”A 20FT telescopic water fed pole with up to 26FT reach height”*, aluminium, quick-lock telescopic sections, a 180-degree rotating brush head and a soap dispenser. On the trade’s 1.2 multiplier a twenty-foot pole is sized for sixteen feet of glass, which makes this the honest single-storey-plus-dormer choice. Two limitations and the second one is the deciding one: no weight published anywhere, and no squeegee, so this is a soft-water or treated-water pole.

Guttermaster PRO-Straight, sixteen feet, bare. The pole for somebody who does not need thirty feet and knows it. A bare telescopic water-fed pole with a built-in adjustable flow control valve, aluminium, that connects straight to a garden hose and takes flow-through brushes on a standard thread — so if you already own a wash brush or a flow-through head, this is a pole rather than a kit, which is the tidier answer for a bungalow or for gutter faces and fascia. The limitation is the sentence in its own last bullet, which invites you into a system containing *”telescoping poles, pressure washer wands, and accessories”* — two product classes with the same fitting and a fifty-fold difference in working pressure, in one catalogue. Buy the pole; keep the wands on the machine where they belong.

Aquaspray Venom 40-foot carbon fibre. The best-documented listing in all forty-five, and it is not close. A pole weight rather than a parcel weight (8.4 lb), a collapsed length — the only one in the census, six feet four inches, 24T carbon fibre, a named clamp system with its purpose explained, a brass shut-off valve, a 10-inch dual-trim brush, fifty-five feet of hose, a three-quarter-inch quick connect, and an explicit statement that the DI or RO/DI system is not included. That is a specification block. Two limitations. Forty feet is sized by its own brand’s multiplier for thirty-three feet of glass, which is a commercial frontage and not a house, so most readers here want the shorter version of this thinking rather than this pole. And like all forty-five, it publishes no pressure figure, so the tap rule applies to it exactly as it does to the plainest kit on the shelf.

Six Poles That Argue With Themselves

Every refusal below failed on its own text rather than on my opinion of it. Five of the six publish a number that another number in the same listing contradicts.

TONYINGO’s thirty-foot reach kit. The title says 30 FT. Its first bullet describes “a 5-24FT telescopic extendable extension pole.” Its second bullet, describing the same pole, says “The 5-20FT adjustable telescopic telescoping extension pole.” Three lengths, one pole, one listing, and the gap between the smallest and the largest is ten feet. I cannot recommend a pole whose own copy will not settle on how long it is.

The two unbranded seven-metre poles. Both carry the same line: *”The single pole weighs only 0.25kg and can be easily used by the elderly and women.”* A quarter of a kilogram is about nine ounces. These are twenty-three-foot aluminium telescopic poles with a fifty-centimetre brush head and a twenty-metre hose. If “single pole” means one section then the figure is unhelpful rather than wrong, and the listing never says — which is the problem. A weight figure that could be either the whole tool or a ninth of it is not a specification.

VEVOR’s 33, 36 and 39-footers. Refused on the maker’s own sentence, which I quoted above and which does not appear on its shorter poles: two-person operation is recommended. That is a manufacturer telling you its product is outside one person’s control at that length, and a reader buying a pole specifically to avoid needing help should read it as the answer. Buy the longest one that does not carry the warning.

The two EquipMaxx inline-filter kits. These fail twice in one bullet. First: *”The included inline water filter reduces sediment and helps protect your equipment. Essential for efficient solar panel cleaning using deionized water filter for solar panels.”* A sediment filter and a deionising resin bed are not the same device and do not do the same job — one takes out grit, the other takes out the dissolved minerals that cause the spots — and the kit also includes a TDS meter *”to check water hardness levels and will help you decide if you need to change your filter or not.”* A sediment cartridge does not move TDS, so the meter will read the same before and after. Second, in the same bullet: *”The inline filter fits any standard 3/4″ hose thread and pressure washer.”* On a product class with a published ceiling of 90 to 115 PSI, that is the one sentence I did not want to find.

XERO’s thirty-foot carbon fibre pole, and Tucker’s bare thirty. These are serious trade poles from serious trade names, and their listings publish five bullets and two bullets respectively. XERO’s are: lightweight carbon fibre pole; durable clamps that are easy to use; a plastic end defender; what is in the box; hose colour may vary. Tucker’s are: the model name with “(30′ pole)” after it, and “No tips or accessories included.” No weight, no collapsed length, no section count, no clamp count. These may well be the best-made poles in the census, and disclosure plainly does not track tier here, because the best-documented listing in all forty-five is at the trade end too — but a page built on what listings commit to cannot recommend one that commits to nothing. Buy these from a dealer who will tell you the numbers, not from a bullet about hose colour.

Purivanta’s electric brush. A 280/400 RPM motor, a USB-C battery good for forty-five minutes, a 100 ml foam reservoir, and a telescopic pole given as “1.5FT–20.34FT” in one clause and “4.76 to over 20FT” in the next. The reason it gets no link is the target it names: 400 RPM is offered for “heavy-duty sap and hard water stains.” A hard water stain is a mineral bonded to the glass, and a spinning brush does not break a chemical bond at any RPM — it polishes the deposit while the same bullet promises bristles “gentle on anti-reflective coatings.” Those two claims cannot both be true of the same pass.

FAQ

Can you use a water fed pole with a pressure washer?

No, and this is the one genuinely important answer on the page. A water-fed pole is a tap-pressure tool: the only manual published in the lane gives drinking-water line pressure as 40 to 60 PSI and caps the system at 115 PSI in a DANGER box, with a consumer model capped at 90. A pressure washer’s industry definition starts at 500 PSI and most homeowner machines run at six times that. The two share a three-quarter-inch hose thread and nothing else. Feed the pole from the outside tap.

How long a water fed pole do I need for a two-storey house?

Measure the highest glass and multiply by about 1.2, which is the sizing rule a supplier in this trade publishes — a twenty-foot window wants roughly a twenty-four-foot pole. The multiplier exists because you work at an angle rather than straight up, and because a long pole flexes under load. Be careful which number a listing is quoting: on some, “30 ft reach” means a 24-foot pole plus your height; on others, “24 Feet Reach” is the pole itself.

Do water fed poles need deionised water?

To leave glass spot-free without wiping, yes. The mechanism is that pure water dries leaving nothing behind, and the manual quoted above puts average drinking water at 180 ppm of dissolved solids. On tap water you have two choices: squeegee the glass dry before it dries itself, or treat the water. Sixteen of the forty-five kits I read include a squeegee; fifteen mention pure water, and nearly all of those mean the water system is something you buy separately.

How much does a water fed pole weigh?

Almost nobody will tell you. Nineteen of forty-five carry a weight at the marketplace and those are parcel weights that include brushes, hoses and adapters — within one brand’s range the thirty-six-footer is published lighter than the twenty-six-footer. Exactly one listing in forty-five publishes a weight for the pole alone, at 8.4 lb for a forty-foot carbon fibre pole. Nobody publishes the weight at full extension with water in the line.

Is a carbon fibre water fed pole worth it over aluminium?

For strength-to-weight at length, genuinely yes, and it is why the trade poles are carbon. For electrical safety, no, and nothing in this category claims otherwise: no pole here publishes an insulating rating for any voltage, and the federal rule on working near overhead lines treats an object with no published rating as conductive. Carbon fibre in particular is a conductor. Buy it for the handling and keep your distance from the service drop either way.

Can a water fed pole clean gutters and siding too?

The outside face of a gutter, the fascia and a wall, yes — that is a rinse-and-agitate job and a flow-through brush on a pole does it well. The inside of the trough, no. And above the first storey the brush is wiping rather than scrubbing, because the force you can apply through twenty feet of flexing tube is small. Size the brush head to what you can actually press with, not to the widest one in the kit.

The Tap Is the Only Thing That Should Be Behind It

Forty-five listings, and the one specification that defines the entire product class appears on none of them. A water-fed pole is a tap-pressure, low-flow, brush-and-rinse tool. It cleans because bristles move across glass and because clean water carries the result away, and the reach number on the box only decides whether you can get there at all.

So: work out how high the top pane is, multiply by 1.2, buy the pole that will tell you its own length and its own clamp count, make sure there is a squeegee in the box unless your water is soft, and screw the hose onto the outside tap. The machine in the garage has plenty to do at ground level. It has no business at the top of a thirty-foot aluminium tube, and no listing in this category is going to be the thing that tells you so.

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